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13 November 2006 @ 06:03 pm
awww, @#$%. i mean, horse apples.  
our innermost fears have been realized, friends. this just in from www.wonder-showzen.com:

Breaking News!!!
Dear Fans of Wonder Showzen,

We have horrible news. The Wonder Showzen Fan Site has received word, and we regret to inform you that Wonder Showzen will not be airing for a third season. I know the heartache and pain you must feel. We wish the creators of the show all the best and thank them for such a marvelous masterpiece of television.

mtv2/viacom can eat my taint. why does the liberal jew run media insist on cancelling my favorite shows in their prime? mr. show, arrested development, now this. bastards!

oh well, at least we still have according to jim, how i met my wife, two and a half men, and 8 hours of everybody loves raymond reruns every night of the week, and other assorted innumerable family sitcoms with the same tired plots, the same tired characters, etc.
Current Music: isis, "in the absence of truth"
The Wigfield Maniachelselonearth on November 14th, 2006 02:15 am (UTC)
good comedies have short shelf lives, it sucks.

strangers with candy, upright citizens brigade, starved, mr show, office UK, the ben stiller show, chappelle, arrested development, home movies, clerks the animated series,

billions more i can't think of

mad tv has been on for over ten years :(
Joctopus Rexholyhackjack on November 14th, 2006 04:17 am (UTC)
"good comedies have short shelf lives, it sucks."

Right on the nose.
the_fallen_the_fallen_ on November 14th, 2006 06:40 am (UTC)
greg the bunny, titus, god the devil and bob, the good celebrity deathmatch.
I can't think the names of more.
visual_shadow on November 14th, 2006 02:25 am (UTC)
You can't expect shows that rest primarily on shock value to last long.
I LOVE "Wonder Showzen" and own both boxsets (I don't have MTV2), but frankly I'm really glad its over. The show was running out of good ideas and instead of being clever and funny it was starting to get really annoying in that not-so-funny way. Comparing the first and second season is evidence of that, but of course this is all just my oppinion. "Wonder Showzen" had a really great run and I'm glad they stopped before the show reached it's lowest point.
visual_shadow on November 14th, 2006 02:27 am (UTC)
I couldn't stand "Horse Apples" worst idea ever. Although I found it funny when people actually liked it and thought it was a real show on one of the episodes of "Wonder Showzen"
The Wigfield Maniac: Mr. Show - Gibbon's Markethelselonearth on November 14th, 2006 02:31 am (UTC)
Re: Mexico
everybody hated horse apples!!! i loved it. i thought it was great because no one else has really put all that "Blue collar" shit in it's place before or since that.
Jen: wheymicrouniversity on November 14th, 2006 03:18 am (UTC)
Re: Mexico
I loved it too.
The Wigfield Maniachelselonearth on November 14th, 2006 03:26 am (UTC)
Re: Mexico
haha :)

i liked it not only for the blue collar bashing but it had such quality cameos
Jen: wheymicrouniversity on November 14th, 2006 03:54 am (UTC)
Re: Mexico
For reals.
oceanic86 on November 14th, 2006 07:01 am (UTC)
Re: You can't expect shows that rest primarily on shock value to last long.
i loved horse apples, too. regardless of whether people thought it was funny or not, it certainly took balls to dedicate an entire show just to one concept. that's the kind of thing i think made the show transcendent, not the censor-baiting or absurdity, but the fact that they did what other shows only claim to do, and took actual risks. it obviously set out to do a lot more than just get cheap laughs, and i think some people really missed the point. the clarence special report on compelling television may not have been "funny," but it's so audacious that it is, well, very compelling telelvision. i suspect almost anyone who flipped to mtv2 when that was on, changed the channel. that's why the show is underappreciated, and also why it's now gone.
Juliaxhale_oxygen on November 14th, 2006 03:15 am (UTC)
Re: Mexico
I hated "Horse Apples" too. All it was missing was Jeff Foxworthy to morph into a steaming pile of shit.
visual_shadow on November 14th, 2006 03:20 am (UTC)
White people and space!
I knew "Horse Apples" was suppose to mock redneck comedy and shows like "Hee Haw" and the like, but it was just too obnoxious and really annoying, especially on the season 2 DVD in the extras they had a "Horse Apple" segment were it made repetitive loops with all the different "Horse Apple" characters makes noises and makes expressions. I think what bothered me most of all was how they (Wonder Showzen's producers) tried pushing it down the viewer's throat, but thats not really fair of me to say since I don't have MTV2 and haven't seen the show viewed on T.V. in much, much smaller portions (I assume.). Again this is all my opinion.
The Universal Dilettante: sadroadriverrail on November 14th, 2006 04:38 pm (UTC)
Re: White people and space!
"Horse Apples" was nothing more than another step in David Cross' ongoing public war with Larry the Cable Guy. As such, it would have been funny if it were just a single sketch, but it just kept going on and on.

30 minutes of one comedian mocking another is 29 minutes more than I care for.

Sad to see the show go, but at least we'll always have the DVDs.
visual_shadow on November 14th, 2006 07:05 pm (UTC)
Time travel.
I didn't know it was against "Larry the Cable Guy", but that is interesting. I do agree with you that it would have been funny (sorta) for a single sketch, but thats all. Everyone is different though.
The Universal Dilettante: geekituderoadriverrail on November 14th, 2006 08:37 pm (UTC)
Re: Time travel.

That's part of their open rivalry.

This is why, when David Cross is executed by the masked terrorist, he says "Alright, Larry. Git r done."
oceanic86 on November 14th, 2006 06:59 pm (UTC)
Re: White people and space!
too late, jeff foxworthy already is a steaming pile of shit.
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visual_shadow on November 14th, 2006 02:46 am (UTC)
Re: You can't expect shows that rest primarily on shock value to last long.
Why? o_0
The Wigfield Maniachelselonearth on November 14th, 2006 03:26 am (UTC)
Re: You can't expect shows that rest primarily on shock value to last long.
howard stern has been on the air for how long? and he just asks strippers and the occasional celebrity if they like it in the ass.
visual_shadow on November 14th, 2006 03:40 am (UTC)
Re: You can't expect shows that rest primarily on shock value to last long.
This is true and is a good point, but Howard Stern was more like an unconventional and anti-hero radio (and T.V.) talk show host. There always be exceptions to the rule and Howard Stern was one of them. Don't worry there'll be plenty of awesome shows for years to come dealing with controversal topics and shock value maybe some maybe even better than "Wonder Showzen".
shoe5005 on November 14th, 2006 04:49 am (UTC)
not to be mean but two discs does not make a boxset, you need at least 5 discs to qualify
visual_shadow on November 14th, 2006 07:07 pm (UTC)
Most pointless comment I've gotten on LJ all year...(I think.)

But hey now I know and knowing if half the battle!
slagbotslagbot on November 15th, 2006 12:30 am (UTC)
Wonder showzen relied way more on genius than shock value. The shock value just weeded out idiots.
i thought season 2 was even better than season 1--they took what they'd done further and in unexpected directions and probably confused the fuck out of a lot of people while they were at it. horse apples was fucking money. cameos by will oldham and devendra banhart were icing on the cake.

but i agree that i'm glad it's done. i would've been surprised if they even wanted to make a 3rd season, regardless of whether or not MTV2 renewed it.

i mean, they obviously were building towards the end of the whole thing, and the way the clarence episode ended made it pretty clear that WS was done.
efleck999 on November 14th, 2006 02:26 am (UTC)
I'm not surprised.

But then again... maybe they are playing a trick on us?
Who knows. Wonder Showzen was probably one of the
last shows on TV that I watched.
Becky: beaker and bunsenfear_n_loathing on November 14th, 2006 03:26 am (UTC)
MTV has always sucked. The only thing you can do is write them many letters and complain, unless it WAS the creators who decided to stop.
( :D oX ): clamdiggerchesterisapimp on November 14th, 2006 03:33 am (UTC)
shoe5005 on November 14th, 2006 04:46 am (UTC)
I guess that's the end of Compelling Teevee as we know it..
akira28 on November 14th, 2006 05:40 am (UTC)
suck my small sized penis.
god damn. god DAMN!

well i'll definately buy the 2 DVD sets.
This world wasn't ready. I don't think it would
have ever been. This show was too cool for the room
and too hot for television. Oh well, maybe they should
have had more drunk girls flashing their boobs. Then they
would have lived forever!!!!!!!

btw. Horse Apples was sheer crystal clear genius. True story.
(and by that i mean extremely subtle..referencing my lost years
in Tennessee)
oceanic86 on November 14th, 2006 06:55 pm (UTC)
yeah, i too love horse apples. i always thought it seemed like there was a lot more going on there than just overtly mean redneck bashing. people seem to take it at face value.
Holden Mc.Neiltha_sir_illist on November 14th, 2006 05:49 am (UTC)
its obviously a conspiracy set against david cross since he has appearted in all three shows you listed!
Criminy Craffftfrenchthebully on November 14th, 2006 03:00 pm (UTC)
I was just thinking the same thing.
oceanic86 on November 14th, 2006 06:43 pm (UTC)
hahaha, i didn't even think of that. i do love me some david cross, though.
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oceanic86 on November 14th, 2006 06:50 pm (UTC)
yeah, i'd agree. although i seem to be in disagreement with most of the people here when it comes to the quality of season 2. i loved every minute of it, but the novelty of "holy SHIT, i can't believe they dedicated an entire show to this" wears off after the first couple viewings, and renders at least one entire episode on the DVD useless. i love "horse apples", even the full episode of it, but i can't imagine ever sitting through "the clarence special report on compelling television" again any time soon.

and i'll check that group out, thanks for the suggestion.
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The Universal Dilettante: geekituderoadriverrail on November 14th, 2006 08:35 pm (UTC)
PFFR started this online, IIRC.

I'm at the point now where I have the camera, mics, lights, backdrops, and post-production equipment, and I'm in touch with a pretty good puppeteer. I'm not saying I'm going to rip off Wonder Showzen, nor am I going to fanfilm it, but I'm just pointing out we could always just take matters into our own hands and make offensive puppet sketches ourselves.
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The Universal Dilettante: posingroadriverrail on November 14th, 2006 11:36 pm (UTC)
Okay, but only if you agree to dress it up as the number pi.
Miss Valentinelife_as_a_decoy on November 15th, 2006 12:52 am (UTC)
all i can hope is that this turns out like aqua teen and family guy where the support of the fans gets it back on the air. or at least continued production. this show is too fucking awesome to go down like a bitch.
Miss Valentinelife_as_a_decoy on November 15th, 2006 12:54 am (UTC)
put it on adult swim. problem solved.
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Miss Valentinelife_as_a_decoy on November 15th, 2006 05:50 pm (UTC)
anime fanboys make the world go around. their disposable incomes from not having girlfriends, or friends for that matter, allows them to spend on dvd box sets that boost show profits. plus, they have nothing better to do so they also boost show ratings.

and more people know about the show then one would imagine.

p.s. sorry if i offended anyone with my anime comment. i hate anime. nothing personal.
The Universal Dilettanteroadriverrail on November 15th, 2006 03:40 pm (UTC)
I'll put a sawbuck on the reason that MTV2 didn't renew with PFFR is because PFFR was a standards and practices nightmare and were stubborn to work with. Adult Swim would have the same tension with likely the same result.

Sure, Adult Swim will run some pretty offensive stuff, but Wonder Showzen had a dog ripping a fetus from its mother while she was executed by electric chair. Adult Swim wouldn't touch that.

Wonder Showzen is like Andy Kaufman. Everyone in the know loves it, but nobody in the know wants to cope with having it around.

The show's crazy cheap to produce. I wonder if they could make enough going straight to DVD?
Miss Valentinelife_as_a_decoy on November 15th, 2006 05:41 pm (UTC)
two words. assy mcgee.
and let's not forget the dick episode of aqua teen. compared to some of the stuff on adult swim wonder showzen is not that bad. not to mention they had a bunch of bumps that praised the show.

but it would be awesome if they just went straight to dvd. cause that's the only time i watch them anyway. i hate mtv.
oceanic86 on November 15th, 2006 06:36 pm (UTC)
hmmm, you know, the straight-to-dvd option wouldn't be a bad one. i think i read an interview where they said that the first season was the best selling dvd for mtv around the time it came out. everyone i know who likes the show rarely got to see it on mtv2, and instead just bought the dvds.

that said, i'm guessing they'll most likely just move on to something entirely different.
skeletoncuntskeletoncunt on November 20th, 2006 03:56 am (UTC)
This was expected. I feel bad for not buying cable to give it ratings.

Meh. I won't delete this place though, just let it rot as a monument to another dead comedy, and the people who loved it.